Alex Wise on Decision 2020 + Ian Urbina on the Outlaw Ocean

This week on Sea Change Radio, we hear host Alex Wise’s thoughts on the 2020 election as we enter the final week of the campaign. Then, we speak to Ian Urbina, a longtime investigative reporter for the New York Times whose latest book The Outlaw Ocean reveals many of the hidden costs of the seafood and shipping industries. After listening to Urbina discuss his book that took five years to research and led him around the globe through some of the deadliest waters on earth, it’ll make you realize that the reason something is impossibly cheap is because far too often it involves impossible human suffering.

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